Eric on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
Hmm. I don’t know what to think of this now.
Hitherby has become most intricate, and continues to do so.
Is this intended to be an indefinitely continuing thing, or is it meant to reach a certain conclusion and end, oh Hitherby Author?
admin on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
I recognized the axe from Bob (III/IV). Dunno about Red Riding Hood.
Poor Bob.
Eric on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
Now, though, we must wonder… was Bob one of Jane’s gods? He was her brother, but he wasn’t her mother’s child, according to Jane. On the other hand, he claimed to be real, and if he was one of her gods, he’d be an isn’t, wouldn’t he?
And, of course, it raises the question of why Martin seemingly killed him after he killed the wogly.
I wonder if we’ll be seeing more that’ll tie this in to Alan the unbound fiend soon? That dealt with the Monster making gods from people too, a topic that we’ve seen a lot of lately, but in that, it seemed that it was more binding things from outside into the shape of gods rather than truly making them…
Egarwaen on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
Actually, I think that Bob WAS one of Jane’s gods. At least, that’s what I got from Bob (III/IV). He was just real because he was also her brother. Then Martin killed him and a wogly and somehow used that to change Jane AND become her brother… But why? And this leads us back again to my question from a few threads back:
What the hell is Martin?
Actually, wait. We know Bob wasn’t real. He stuck his fingers into a wogly and then pulled them out again, and only isn’ts can do that. Can’t they?
Archangel Beth on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
Those would be the cynicism goggles Jane refers to?
Eric on November 30, -0001 at 12:00 am said:
Well, Martin doesn’t seem to be a god, or at least, not one of the same sort that we’ve come to know about. He’s also not a monster or a hero.
He is, however, a divine entity of some sort, it appears.
He’s a dedicated cynic, we know that for sure. Sometimes, he’s inevitable. He can alter what Jane’s scanner says, even though it’s a source of absolute universal truth.
He can bring messages about the divine. He can shine with the subtle radiance of the numinous. He can do what it takes, make himself from nothing, kill woglies, and make dead angels live again. He’s been observed to make a machine to make people uncertain.
According to him, he’s the smith, the test, and the maker.
He cares about people in the sense of wanting to make them better, but not in the sense of wanting to keep them from suffering. He has an adversarial relationship with the Monster.
I think that, whatever else he might be, that he’s an answer to Jenna’s question “What kind of things answer monsters?” I can’t give any strong proof for that, though, it’s just a hunch.
Rafraster on June 3, 2007 at 9:09 am said:
Could it be that Martin is simply “is”? Or perhaps…”I Am”?
Qoheleth on September 17, 2012 at 8:04 pm said:
He can alter what Jane’s scanner says, even though it’s a source of absolute universal truth.
Let me toss out a theory here.
We know that Martin made himself from nothing – that, essentially, he chose his own dharma. We know that he at least claims to be able to be as old or young as he needs to be, unlike most gods, whose ages are set in stone, and most mortals, who age as you’d expect them to age.
And we only saw Martin change the reading on the scanner when Jane was scanning him.
What if the trick he pulled here was redefining himself, so that what he wanted to show up on the scanner was, in fact, the truth about him – e.g., redefining himself to be the kind of person to whom Jane ought to give her My Little Tao doll?
Jenna on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 pm said:
Sadly I think we’d have to define absolute universal truth before we can really know. ^_^